kind of reactionary trolls that there is this constant insecurity, fear, obsession with their status as men or in society that i just find seems like a prison, frankly. it seems like a horrible way to live. but is this kind of roiling anger at women, at society a place that they feel dislocated from? >> i used to find it really sad, you know. and i used to have empathy towards them. and i used to say god, what a miserable way to live. >> to go about life turkey, think about yourself and women and gender relations. but now it is really scary, because they're providing this narrative to young people who are unwell who want a place to put their resentment. and they're saying put it on women. >> and they're actually doing real damage. and i think in the case of folks, women who are trying to live in public space, who are writing on the internet, shannon, people who are being activists, who are trying to organize a mom demands meeting in a strip mall in ft. worth, there is a real cost when you think you can come to our
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