to. the broad solution is put a price on carbon. we have to price it so that things like solar and wind become more and more competitive and more and more attractive. >> are you disappointed the president didn't make a decision on on keystone excel? >> i think every day it doesn't get built is a victory. so ultimately i hope he decides against it, but i rather he delay than say yes. if the options are don't delay, build, my preference is don't build it. if it's between saying yes and delay, i'll take delay. >> you can see all in with chris hayes here on msnbc. at noon chris and i talk about the growing income divide and why europe offers a better quality of life for its low wage citizens than people have here in the u.s. two supreme court justices of the odds and whether this is
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