ruling involving web hubbell, a former law partner of hillary clinton if somebody has to make a decision about which documents are relevant to a subpoena, that could be a form of testimony, and it's covered by the fifth amendment. so this is going to be a very interesting legal argument. and i think it's pretty clear to say that it's not going to end here. whoever loses will likely appeal. this could drag on for quite some time. >> but paul, bridget kelly is the author of the e-mail as i said, "time for some traffic problems." now, here is what bridget kelly's attorney said about that e-mail. listen to this. >> everybody says my god, this does it. this ask the document. reduce the lanes. okay. so when i look at this document, i look, on its face, on its face, does it regard the george washington bridge? nope. on its face, does it regard the