question then becomes what's next? >> so, tommy, what about the prime minister of ukraine, the current inter -- whatever you want to call him -- called this a declaration of war. there are russian troops on the scene. ukraine does not have the military mite to fight back, full fledge d russian incursion. is there any scenario under which there's a conflict here or can srussia take what it wants because nobody wants a conflict with them. >> i can't see anywhere it involves u.s. forces. i think what we're seeing here is putin lashing out militarily in response to a massive political defeat. he lost a very close ally when he was depose d and sent from kiev and now is sending troops in. i think we need to reject, the united states needs to reject, the zero sum look at this that ukraine must choose to be russian or choose to be western. this is a sovereign nation. they should be able to live how
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