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down lanes on a bridge that put people at risk, that's something totally different. and you've crossed the line with that. >> well, what about going to a mayor and saying if you don't back my buddies and all the people that work for me that are now lawyers for this operation, this rockefeller institute deal, if you don't back this real estate deal, which is a privately funded money making operation, if you don't do this, because i want it done because of my pals, you're not going to get the money you normally should get from the government, that to you a strong arm or simply "hardball"? is that fair game? >> that is strong arm. i mean, i was a mayor. and if someone had threatened me with that, i would have told them to go jump in the passaic river. >> well, that's what i think would be a nice thing to do. thank you robert gordon for coming on the show and bob ingle about your wisdom about the way things work up there. coming up, bully pulpit. it seems to be the christie administration's m.o., say something critical, ask the wrong question or write a negative story and they go at

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