would be unless otherwise stated that it was coming from the governor. there is no getting around that. the "times" cites anonymous sources who describe a governor intimately involved with his inner circle, a governor who personally tended to the smallest of details, who worried about his e-mails being traced so he texted instead. the big question, did governor christie's aides who shared almost everything with him keep him in the dark about the lane closings as he claims? joining me now is one of the people who told their story to the times" on the record. david pringle, new jersey campaign director for clean water action. he served on christie's 2009 transition team. an msnbc contributor jonathan capehart. thank you both for being here. >> thanks. >> david, the floor plan makes clear how physically close
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