that didn't wash. that didn't float. as soon as that e-mail came out, that's when they discover the governor said, oops, i'm in trouble. >> reporter: barbara ran against christie when he was up for re-election. this is what she said earlier today at 11:00 here on msnbc. they was talking about the culture that exists here in trenton. take a hilisten. >> there's a culture of fear. i got little help from the democratic party and powers that be and bosses in new jersey. >> reporter: that was hers response when they said she she didn't do more to expose this. she didn't do as much to expose it because of what she just said. what do you say to that? is that the case here in trenton? >> not at all. in fact, the chairman has been aggressive at getting down to the bottom of this. it took time.