commissions than anybody else on wall street, you're getting first calls that count. it goes beyond that. that's just the beginning. you pay a lot of commissions, you get a lot of favors. you're a good client. they call you with information. whether that information actually is proprietary information and whether you trade on it is the next set of questions. >> you were able to obtain footage of steve cohen's deposition. i wanted to show people a little bit of it. >> you were the head of sac, right? >> doesn't matter. >> that wasn't my question. you're the head -- >> correct. >> you take compliance seriously? >> that's correct. >> and have you ever taken it upon yourself to read the rules? >> i rely on my counsel. i might have read them. i just don't remember. >> wow. the arrogance of this guy not