there. >> will we ever know what he's got? the "new york times" says we won't this morning. >> i don't know. i really don't. >> what are the repercussions? >> he seems to have a negotiating edge on us because he has this overhang in terms of negotiating. i wouldn't do it. i understand the attraction, but i wouldn't do it because that simply motivates future snowdens to do these kinds of things. >> if the government has all this data, our electronic fingerprint, as it were, inside this haystack. is there a way to encrypt that data? i've heard you can encrypt the data, and if the government wants access to it, then they need a warrant, essentially, to crack the encryption, to be able to look at it. >> first thing, it doesn't have all that data. the only place where we're really exhaustive or comprehensive is in the metadata of phone calls. i'm comfortable with it, but i understand others not being comfortable with it. i think the key, david, is what do you do with that data?