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>> yeah. how do you see both sides of the aisle trying to negotiate on a farm bill considering such a huge $35 billion gap between how much the house and senate want to cut from the food stamp program? >> one of the questions that has to be answered here in the budget is whether whether or not we're going to have additional revenue. the republicans keep insisting there can be no revenue. now, if they do that, that means the s.n.a.p. program will be cut but it also means health research will be cut and the sequester will continue. and it's going to be very hard to get a resolution of the budget problem if you're unwilling to close some loopholes and get some additional money. this simply are some things that we are now cutting which will have long-term effects that as a society we can't stop investing in like food for kids and health research. >> all right. i want to switch gears and address the obama care debate, sir. i spoke with republican congressman tom cole a few

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