concerned with preserving massive sales of firearms for its, the firearms companies that support it. >> i think that's right. and you said, there is nothing in the law that suggests what they say is at all true. there is no basis for believing that this will lead to confiscation of guns or to -- or to infringement upon americans rights as secretary of state kerry reiterated this week. it's essential codified in the treaty which really is symbolic more than anything. it creates a set of international guidelines but not enforceable domestically in the united states. and you know, all of that being said. the nra isn't interested in talking about it. they want to -- hold a -- 100% line against anything that has to do with regulating firearms. you know one of the ironies here too is, they're -- political right loves to beat of on the united nations. they always portray it as -- a