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being too conservative when he came to health care, wasn't supportive of the single payer system. >> a lot of the left say it doesn't go far enough. >> this is a large and complicated bill. health care is the size of the french economy if you think about it. the implications are profound. it's a matter of quality of life. it's a matter of life or death. it's a matter of economics. this is really an important thing for people to get a better understanding of -- >> let's protects people. >> but i think what's going to happen from here because defundsing is not going to happen. you're going to have people in the middle and both sides come together, what's working and what's not working. what do we need to hold off on for some time. >> that makes sense economically. >> the difficulty you saw in the sound from the president is that selling regulation is different than selling a benefit. >> right. >> medicare was fundamentally a benefit and then you walk away, do i want medicare. when you sell a regulation like, why do you have ingredients on

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