afterwar afterwards, gives pause, take ten days, get congress behind. that's common sense. >> a lot of people want to get at you. >> story of my life. >> i want to remind everyone what the debate was like during the iraq war. particularly as we got to the surge because what donny just said is precisely what republicans including president bush said about u.s. credibility being on the line in iraq. here you're it taking a stand against chemical weapons. you know, makes a lot of sense to a lot of people. but ultimately, what i think jeffrey and others are arguing is, we need to try to use u.s. leverage to engineer a political outcome in syria. i think that's what people think is a fool's errand in this country a lot of people, perhaps the majority of people at this point. i think jeffrey's argument and other people are saying you can do this in a way that doesn't require boots on the ground, more political, send more