these days. >> i agree. so here's my question for you. because i also feel that one of the differences between these two issues is that what i was saying before, these issues get coated racially. i see a lot of people respond to me when i cover the nsa, concern about the nsa and whatever it is doing is an outgrowth of fr privilege, yourself. if you're trying to make sure your 16-year-old son isn't jacked up by cops every day, you're not that worried about whatever screen of data that is happening in some remote -- there's something to that, but then at the same time it also feels like this is a way of marginalizing a story about what the government can do that really is connected in a very direct way to what the government's doing up and down from the federal down to the local level. >> sure. i'm trying to push back against that marginalization. >> go ahead, james. >> trying to push back against that marginalization. it's difficult to do that because what you're saying is the real -- it's the real experiences of a lot of folk obviously in new york city, but pennsylvania also has stop and
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