abby, if you're going to show up and do the thing, you can't give everyone the impression that this is the last place on earth you want to be. you've got to be able to laugh at yourself, make it feel like you're in on the joke. because people might, might vote for a likable creep. they're not going to vote for some crotchty, angry creep. >> i agree with that. >> he's a deeply unhappy person at this moment. you can't have fun with it when you're not happy yourself. >> the same thing jumped out at me. it was weird how he seemed to uncomfortable with it. he seemed to say, yeah, i know i did these things that are bad or that people say are bad, but i'm exhausted by this process. this is the very process that he has forced on the race. he has ever right to run. i'm glad he didn't drop out. all told, this wasn't a lot of new information that it's a problem that's continued for him and his family. but the fact that he acts like, oh, my god, why are we tall talking about this? which was the most heated sort of back and forth with ben smith. >> which he blamed on the slow
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