shorthand i'll say terrorist. go ahead. >> here's another point which is this notion, and this is the point that coburn and so many conservatives have made, they're not going to defund obama care. obama care has a self-perpetuating funding source and it's funding is largely an accounted for outside of what they can affect. >> why are threw threatening to crash it if not for terrorist reasons? >> they're threatening to crash it, chris, because ted cruz has been running for president of the united states since the very moment the texas primary was called when he defeated dave dewhurst and he's running for president. he sees this as his running lane. he's going to whip up all the people on the far right in the republican party on this. and what is so demagoguic about ted cruz is ted cruz certainly intellectually understands that this is the wrong thing to do. he understands that we have to pay the bill on money that we've already spent.
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