>> i interviewed you on my previous program the day before you were legally married in the state of washington after that state, through a ballot initiative had legalized marriage equality. what does this mean for you? in your every day life. what does it mean now for you? >> well, pragmatically, as has been pointed out by other people, some of the most important incidents of marriage kick in at the worst moments of your life. at the end of life, being able to make end of life decisions for your partner, for you, your spouse. but at tax time, terry and i, because we're married and the federal government didn't recognize our marriage we weren't able to file jointly, we paid about $80,000 more perhaps in the last year in taxes than we would have otherwise, basically our son's college education funds drained from us, because one of us didn't have a vagina.
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