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strategy. i have a wonderful client base. we have wonderful clients we care about. and we just want to make sure that, do i sell it? do i dissolve it? >> i'm going to start with you, nick, because you've had a couple exits yourselves. how do you figure out what the end game is? >> great question. sometimes you know going in if you had investors coming n you sort of know what you're headed for. in this woman's situation it sound like she developed the business on her own and now needs to find a good place for it to land. as opposed to looking externally, the way to do it would be develop someone internally, can has the goal of taking up the business so he can she can move out in a slower and easier fashion. >> john, it seems like a smart thing to think about. once you know the end, you can work backwards to figure out how to get there. so with the bars you work with, how do people decide whether it's going to close, work internally like nick's talking about or they're going to sell to someone?

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