skeptical of these members, you say we should be skeptical of politicians, this is an ingredient that should be a prerequisite. thus if it's not -- >> at least a discussion. >> i mean, to those people. >> speaking to your point, we don't have that discussion in this country that you cannot have a 100% secure border unless you become a police state. no one wants to say that out loud. >> jamal, do you buy that? >> first of all, let's realize that senator cornyn is like lucy with the football here. he is not going to vote for this bill. he didn't point out last time. the border has basically gone to a trickle. we've got kind of like net zero of illegal immigration. so i think republicans are hold holding this up as really it is pol tigz ticks they're playing with their base constituents. maybe they need something politically so they can say they did something but don't let it get in the way of the good policy and ruin them. ultimately the republican party has to make a decision, are they
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