the phone spying issue. on prism, we're actually talking about the content of communications, aren't we? >> yes, we are against the background of legislation we have in place in the u.s. is frankly around the world is totally out of date. when we rely on so much, the junk mail you get in your postbox has better protection than your e-mail and that stuff you pick up and throw straight in the trash is better protected by u.s. legislation than your private e-mails to your boss, to your doctor, to your children, it's a shocking state of affairs. for the government to say that you shouldn't worry about it is worrying in itself. >> it's hard to get that assurance on spying on phone data and then within the 24 hour period lose that assurance when it comes to everything you do online. increasingly people are making phone calls using voiceover internet protocol and include that and text e-mails and your