of hilarious ironies and not so hilarious ironies. you were talking about south carolina earlier. and comparing kansas to south carolina. you know, which is where nullification comes from. of course, nullification was, you go back and look at your american history, was invented by a guy called john c. calhoun, who was vice president and andrew jackson was president. but his idea was that the states came first. the states were prior to the federal government. and therefore, they could just, you know, if they felt that something was unconstitutional, if they didn't like something, they could just say, well, we, you know, we hereby nullify that in our state. this is a doctrine from the 1820s. and it was bogus then, right? what's funny is that this was the preeminent doctrine of the slave-holding south. this is what -- that was how they rationalized what they were doing. and kansas was not just on the other side, militantly on the other side. this is a state of -- this is the country of john brown, in the statehouse in topeka,
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