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executive order like president johnson did on affirmative action on this kind of issue and basically make a living wage law for contractors and josh's head is about to explode. it would create jobs because it would put more money in the hands of people who actually spend money in this economy. >> i think these sorts of ideas really undermine efforts to provide high quality government services and serve the needs of taxpayers. we're mostly talking about state and local governments. the federal government is supporting these activities but many of them are like home health aides through medicaid and stuff are run by state and local government and spend about half their money on employment compensation. >> you're saying a janitor in union station making $8.75 an hour after working there for 19 years with no benefits, if she makes a little bit more money it's going to bankrupt any kind of government? >> not that it will bankrupt the government, the amount of money state and local governments can spend is fixed. they checked between a specific

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