clinton had the gall to come here and perpetuate things we know as common knowledge are simply not true. >> julian, you used to be the director of the oversight committee. how political is this hearing? because first they said this was the president's greatest failing, but now they seem to have their eyes on 2016 and the potential candidacy of one hillary clinton. >> well, it's very, very transparent, and unfortunately, this committee did not used to be as political a committee as it is today. it's very clear the republicans believe hillary clinton is is unstoppable. they're seeking to scandalize her. if past is prologue, this committee has been ineffective when it came to the fast and furious investigation, solyndra investigation. they didn't have the goods. they don't have the goods in this case. i don't think they'll be effective. very quickly. there are three issues. the question is to, the most important thing is to remember the operation in benghazi was a cia operation and the security decisions were driven by the cia wanting to keep the operations under cover. second, the questions to the special forces and whether to