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thanks for coming on. >> thank you. let me bring casey hunt back in. casey, as we were saying, standing outside where the nra is going to be meeting, the outgoing president said this to the "washington times." as we are likely to win most of the legislative battles in congress, we will have to move to courts to undo the restrictions placed on gun owners' rights in new york, connecticut, maryland and colorado. what is the strategy there? they're willing to fight this on multiple fronts? >> reporter: that's one of the differences we were talking earlier about boots on the ground for the opposition and for the nra. the nra has really focused on the state level quite a bit, even as the gun control issue hasn't been visible on the national stage. so before newtown. they've seen a shift in that pretty dramatically in the wake of newtown. it's one that's still going on. you see there's a fight in new jersey already with newtown families going down there to urge the trenton folks there, the state legislature, to pass stricter gun laws.

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