apologist, so it's -- i have several different hats to wear, and i think that conspiracy theorists are making it more miserable for us in -- as we pick and choose our ways of life. >> i hear you. alice hoagland, the mother of mark bingham, who died on united 93 in shanksville, pennsylvania, on 9/11. thanks for being with us. it's been a lot of years, but i'm so sorry for your loss. >> thank you, dear, thanks very much. all right. our guest for the interview tonight is one of the more compelling people in politics right now, massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. stay with us. [ female announcer ] switch to swiffer 360 dusters extender, and you'll dump your old duster. but don't worry, he'll find someone else. ♪ who's that lady? ♪ who's that lady? ♪ sexy lady, who's that lady? [ female announcer ] swiffer 360 dusters extender cleans high and low, with thick all around fibers