the media should interview them more. one man who let me interview him had his mom call him and say, why did you give your name. he'll be hated by american who is fear muslims and jihadis will attack his family in pakistan. he said america was a safe haven where he as could wage this war against conservative muslims from the safety of the u.s. and he said that he wanted to redouble his efforts to reach out to young muslims that radicals are doing a much better job of reaching out to young muslims and he knows that moderates need to do a much more aggressive effort in that area. >> we heard from muslim leader at the interfaith service the other day, in boston. we heard after 9/11 president bush brought imams to the ceremonies. we've had moments. it was only well after 9/11 that all this anger boiled over. >> it's true. to be fair to americans, this