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gays and lesbians be treated equally in this country. and they have the same rights and franchises everybody else does. >> you know, wes, what's going to be kind of interesting is to watch or listen in regard to law school professor in 1960s, only call on women on tuesdays. the language of justice scalia today to see how he reacts in discussing this case with lawyers because he has been ridiculously off course and a couple of times rhetorically in this case. >> and i think what's interesting too, you'll see a lot of parallels and you can draw a lot of parallels from two things. one is the civil rights argument, which i think is an important argument, analogy in this. but then also the military and the release of the don't ask, don't tell policy. because part of the challenge that was being made for around the -- by the end of don't ask, don't tell was how was this going to affect efficiency,

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