a loss of some $30 million of wages. there are clearly going to be layoffs among the civil servants, 3200 there. some of those people are going to be lose their jobs. the rest are going to clearly be on furlough losing perhaps 20 hours of work or more. you are looking at the coast guard. take a look at the coast guard, just this cruise ship incident. the coast guard is going to lose 20% of its ability to do its job. i mean, what are we talking about here? this is terrible for the nation's security. it's terrible for the health of the people of this nation. >> you have a republican party that will not budge. these cuts are going to go into effect. the only solution is to hold the line. congresswoman kaptur, do you think the democrats have the intestinal fortitude? i know that you've signed on to this letter of 107 of your colleagues that say no cuts in medicare, medicaid and social security. but this is going to be who blinks first. >> well, i think that the republicans, at least this particular group, care more about manufacturing crises than