the hands of president hamid karzai right now. and the only person outside the u.s. government who has talked to him at length on this subject any time recently is now our guest. joining us is atia abawi. atia had an exclusive and sitdown interview with president karzai in kabul last month. great to have you i don't here. >> great to be on. thank you, rachel. >> in terms of a potential agreement between the u.s. and afghanistan, for a long-term presence for u.s. troops, what -- from talking to karzai, what matters more to him, the number of americans who are still in the country or the circumstances under which they're there, where they are and under what law they're subject to? >> i think what matters to president karzai most from our interview was the circumstances, really, that he wants the americans there in a training role. and on the outlier, he does want them to fight the insurgency, which he says in pakistan. he hopes the americans will be able to their special operation
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