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particularly space among african-americans where i live to pass marriage equality. you can see this happening. it's a generational change. people are looking at this differently. and the law has to catch up. >> i don't want to interrupt you. but i want to reveal what you're saying here. when we look at the recent quinnipiac polls on marriage in general, we see kind of the support in opposition is 48, 46. when we look by age, it's really kind of a generational question. secular change over time is going to bring it. by race, as you just point out, as much as we hear blacks versus gays narrative that we often here, the fact is by race, we have a majority of african-americans, 52% and latinos, 59% in support of marriage equality in the election in 2012. >> that's absolutely right. there's been so much progress in addition to the president coming out for marriage and i agree creating that space.

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