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to know a whole lot about this were so far off. i felt very confident in ohio because although romney did okay, i mean, he came close, he was always about 47%, he was never able to go above that. and that was consistent over months. and i think that was also true in some of these other states. and how the romney pollsters messed this up the way they did is just beyond me. they're supposed to know what they're doing. >> yeah, the data drivenness of the romney campaign. erin, i'm sorry about the mike problems we were having. according to newhouse, the biggest problem was misjudging the voters who would turn out on election day who were a lot younger and a lot less white than the romney campaign had expected. as mitt romney had said, as he gave his one speech hope is not a strategy, is that the biggest lesson that they learned, that republicans can't hope for what the electorate is going to turn out to be on election day? >> yeah. look, the romney campaign thought that it would hit its

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