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they do not want an african-american president. it's time -- i'd like to frankly suggest that this is the love it or leave it crowd under george bush when the progressives were complaining. i'd like to suggest modestly they go ahead and leave and stop embarrassing the rest of us. >> we have with us the former chair of the republican -- let me ask this, 89% of mississippi, whites voted against obama. 85% of alabama whites. was there a tinge of the old cause there? >> i don't know if it was a tinge of the old cause. they have differences with the president. differences with the president. i think this whole thing is silly -- >> do you think they're laughing when they sign these things? >> no. the people who signed it verse the rest of the state. it's not like you have this -- texas is a big state, so 110,000 people signing in texas, it's not as big a deal as you think it is, or would like to make it. i think there's a lot ado about nothing. so, let's enjoy our thanksgiving turkey -- >> you're here so you have to suffer through the humiliation of your party. let's go to james peterson here. professor, it seems to me somebody came up to me like they did -- we all have this, somebody comes up with a clipboard, they have a petition they want you to sign. you be polite and you say, let me see what it says. this says, i want to secede from the united states, 110,000 people, enough to fill the cotton bowl. you say it's for real. they are not going to succeed for the very reasons that the

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