it's you're going to look at it differently. and, you know, in a weird defense of mitt romney, in a weird defense of mitt romney, he was answering a deficit question there. he wasn't thinking about fema at all. >> right. in fact, he tried to dodge it a little bit. >> i think that's a really crucial because to me when i think about fema and disasters i'm absolutely confronted by these two americas, the katrina/fema reaction and the sandy/fema reaction and the reality is to argue there hasn't been a significant political response to the significance of fema by different governments and it's not split down party lines. it's simply not true. there was a really great article in "mother jones" that took you through -- >> the development of fema competence. >> right. and who had headed fema and the way that presidents had appointed those fema heads were directly related to how they perceived their significance. so, for example, george bush actually allocated michael brown who was the former -- i just had to read this out, because i was just blown away. michael brown who was the former
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