jonathan, author of "the promise" and erin mcpike. what they can see over our shoulder is that david axlerod is there. we were shouting questions at him. he told me he thinks they'll win ohio by 2% to 3%, but like the romney campaign, as well, jonathan, this is coming down to a handful of states on that one. >> i think with the jobs report, the external events, unless something really out of the blue, a real november is the drive, the external events now repeated and this is -- the election. it's about the level of turnout. we all know obama people can do organizational muscle on election day. and if they do, we should be okay in ohio. if they don't, if there's a big falloff in turnout and it's more