be a stumper. >> i want to talk to you about aids, and not about aids in china or africa but aids right here in this country where black women between the age of 25 and 44 are 13 times more likely to die of the disease than their counter parts. what should the government's role be in helping to end the growth of this epidemic? >> here in the united states, we made significant progress. i have not heard those numbers with respect to african-american women. i was not aware that it was that severe an epidemic there because we have made progress in terms of the overall rate of aids infection. >> the aids epidemic in africa which is killing millions and millions of people and is a frightening thing, not just for the people of africa, but also for the rest of the world, that combined with the genocide that we're now seeing in sudan, are two huge moral issues for the united states of america, which john kerry spoke about eloquently last thursday night. >> in fairness, both men did say