saw the way mitt romney got rattled when he was challenged on things as senior white house ishl ifs said to me, that's one thing he learned. there's a cyops element to this. mrs. romney looked rattled. they are not dumb. they recognize it's a huge problem, but the thing is, this does come back to mitt romney. he does not want to release these returns. and i think the one thing that his political advisers know, we don't know what's in those returns, but we do know one thing, cayman islands, swiss bank accounts, those are toxic with independent swing voters. if there's more than that, that's a good reason not to want to release them. >> or an even lower tax rate. that's also a good reason. >> we have to blame it there. i just love jack gilchrist remembering his 11th grade english teacher. jack gilchrist, great guy. thank you both for joining me tonight. coming up, our thelma and louis.