for $3 in the open market, we, the government pay you the dollar different, right? that's the way income support works, right? >> that's an income support when the government pays me from the treasury. this is not about -- it should not be an issue about the federal government. it has nothing do with the federal budget. what we have is another program in a long line of programs since the early '50s. it produces cheap processed food, cheap meat, milk, and eggs, and so that there is no actual wise use of our land. >> so let's talk about that and talk about what is in the bill and who's backing it and who is benefiting right after we take a break. [ female announcer ] with swiffer dusters,