congress is largely boxed out and also asleep at the wheelg. >> well, that's right. >> i just met with the senator who has a legally bound operation. and he said that the add mirn strags will not provide them with an explanation as to how americans -- >> congress can force them to do it. >> well, i agree with it. that's what i said. they're asleep at the wheel. you have congress that wants its duties forever. >> i mean, this is a key poin, right? the question is a, how much do we know about this, such that we can have a public debate. how much is being capped secret, how much, you know, needs to be kept secret in success of that ie mount.