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massachusetts. >> pointed that out. an interesting -- you know, i've had other republicans argue to me, jill, that, you know, they wouldn't mind actually if the president started saying the words, massachusetts governor, massachusetts governor. they think that's code to independents saying, he's not really at conservative -- >> right. you don't have to worry. it will be okay. >> maybe that's why the obama campaign won't dougo down that road? >> the obama campaign has a playbook talking about what romney did at bain. that's where they are right now. maybe later they will. for the republicans in the primary, their playbook, talking about him as governor. >> stick around. trivia time. how many vice-presidents served as a result of the 25th amendment and who were there? answer just two. 1973. gerald ford the first person to come into office under the provisions of the 25th anticipatedment and in 1974, when ford became president, nelson rockefeller became vice president as result of the 25th amendment process. by the way, really good nelson rockefeller biographies worked

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