>> you're watching an atf sting operation in progress. the action caught on a camera mounted in the dashboard. here cash is exchanged, and in minutes the deal is done. this is the end of the chain for illegal gun trafficking. but finding out how guns get into criminal hands in the first place is the new frontier for solving gun crime. >> the enormous light bulb that's gone off in the last 10 or 15 years is that this identifiable movement of guns is from the legitimate market to the illegal market is real, it's hugely problematic. it's already illegal. and it's something we can do something about. >> you talk about the flow of guns from the legal side to the illegal side. how easy in the country is it for a criminal to get a gun? >> it's frighteningly easy. it's like a kid buying beer.
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