effective. i do think the 2008 ad was a hit, which was a hit on obama that he had no experience at that time. there's no longer an operative argument, and it didn't work so well then either. but this question is twofold. who's out of touch, who's in touch, in a time of great economic distress? and, you know, being culturally connected as the president is, the bottom line is results. mitt romney and anybody supporting mitt romney is going to say 25 different ways that you aren't better off than you were four years ago. >> it makes sense. eugene robinson, do you agree? >> i do agree. and i think -- i actually -- you know, donny, i think, analyzed that ad perfectly. i do think that the -- if it's going to be a competition on who is more out of touch, i'm not sure i want to get into that knife fight on those terms, if i'm mitt romney. >> hold on. while you were talking about who's out of touch, we just had