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now is that so many women really are so excited to see someone so powerful in this position. and although karen knows her so much better than i do, of course, i just had a chance to cover her a little bit, i can't believe she might not, karen, pursue the chance to become the first woman president of the united states. you know, after the six-month rest, right? eight-month or twelve months. it is out there for the taking. and i just think that so many women see her almost cracking that glass ceiling in 2008 and would love to see it happen. >> i just wish i had asked you all to bring your blackberries and sunglasses because we could have gone out on that. >> i know. we could have been so cool, right? >> i think she wants -- no pressure to chelsea as i say this. i think she really would like to be a grandmother. i've got to tell you. >> no pressure. >> o'no pressure, chelsea. >> karen finney, kelly wallace, thank you so much. great conversation. today is also national grilled cheese sandwich day. some fun facts about the favorite comfort food. the sandwich first gained popularity in the u.s. in the '20s. americans consume more than 2

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