that corporate america where the leadership of women has stalled for the last 15 years is now more progressive and has more women represented than this golf club that has a very prominent place in our culture. >> it's interesting. the white house was asked about it. jay carney said he thinks women should be admitted. obviously we wouldn't expect a difference answer. thought comes with this interesting timing that the conversation of the war on women, they just said the rnc chairman, that was like a caterpillar comparing it to something obscure. that there is no war on women. certainly, at least from some per perspectives, point to a climate that still exists in this country. >> they don't want to regard it at augusta as if it is a ban. they say their bylaws have no such preclusion which then begs the question, have they just not found the right woman? if they haven't, what exactly are they looking for? >> they're obviously not looking for a woman to be a member. >> and they're able to do this because it is a private club. and the standard is whether it is a place of public accommodation.