pennsylvania is a little different. because of the catholic populist flair. actually like a bigger government there. and they don't mind social conservatives like bob casey, for instance. >> i think the arithmetic is there. and that is, that romney never made a break through anywhere. but he had six or seven opponents. now it's getting down to one or two. and if santorum really is the only other, the nonromney, he's really able to garner the votes now. so it is quite different. i mean romney never made a breakthrough in any of the earlier races. so it's kind of amazing. but how is santorum going to play if he gets the nomination and the general election, it's a completely different electorate that he's going to face. >> and this is where i disagree with the conventional wisdom. the conventional wisdom is a guy like rick santorum has said too many crazy things and he's too this and he's too that. i surprised a conservative
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