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proposals, compared to other familiar conservative policies, is he deserving of the credit for not being that far right? >> i don't think he is. i think for me, the current benchmark for what i would consider a really dangerously radical proposal to downsize the government is the paul ryan budget. what paul ryan proposed that came out of the house budget committee. you may recall there was a lot of controversy over it and there should have been a lot of controversy over it. he was talking about draconian cuts, a lot of them would have gone in medicare, you would have ended up in a situation where you have senior citizens who can't pay medical bills. all sorts of problems like that. not just for the poor but middle class. if you look dollar for dollar and romney proposed a spending cap and look at the number of dollars he wants to take out of the federal budget, he wants to take more money out of the budget than paul ryan did. now he hasn't said exactly how he would do it but one way or

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