vote that it was not an endorsement and it certainly was not anonymous. so there was a nine-vote difference in the first ballot. it's hardly an anonymous. but on the third ballot, there was a consensus, we're really happy that speaker gingrich went into that with a lot of support and came out of that with the same support. it does go to the sound bite, that there's still divided support among conservatives, but the nonromney vote is well above 16%. the question is whether south carolina voters are going to lean into this issue of electability or if they're going to go for ideas and bold reagan type solutions. >> i understand you're with governor perry, but is it -- in
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