aid be a middle class job? it absolutely can be. where there are unions, they are. >> the point is autoworkers were once janitors, especially, home care aids in terms of what their wages were, social status, the amount pow arer they had -- >> but the period in which he had got paid more was a very different period from the one we're living in now. and right now those jobs, i would pause it to us all, without having a solution, are exposed to much fiercer competitive pressures than they were in this golden period when those wages went up. >> i want to put in a plug for the fact we'll be discussing the way in which private equity, private equity industry and a firm, bayne capital headed by one mitt romney, held usher along the transformation you're talking about. >> when you look at boeing, for example, it's interesting. they're now shutting down facilities in kansas and consolidating operations in washington state. what is an implication of that? one way to look at it is, well,