watching. the by standers. the witnesses and also the one who is being hazed. so if you say to them, your financial aid, your work study, everything that you have that's federally allocated will be suspended if you are involved in a hazing incident, we think it will stop it. and then we want our attorney general holder to put together a task force, a commission, a national hazing task force or commission, we'll let him name it, to look at this whole issue of hazing and how we as americans can stop it and change the culture. because it's a ritual that's old as america in fraternities and college campuses. it's everywhere.