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the president. if they don't nominate someone conservative and they talk about centrists and finding someone in the middle, that could end up being problem mat i think for president obama. we do hear this, right? about every four years. there's going to been an independent run and it's going to change everything. mike bloomberg was going to be it in '07. what does make it different for me, was when they did a briefing with reporters a couple of weeks ago or a week ago, they talked about this. talked about americans elect. they'd clearly looked at it. i was surprised. so they are aware that in sort of an unusual climate and unusual circumstance like this group, things could be a little different. do i think an independent can win the presidency? no, but there's room for somebody to impact. >> who is that person? ron paul's been asked over and over again, will you run as a third party candidate? he's deflected that for now. let's say he ran, he hurts the republican and helps the

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