opinion on those matters that the fact he thinks that is a way to get ahead f push came to shove, do you think that we should expect from mr. gingrich, as a front-runner, that he would really push the gay issue if he had to do it? >> i wouldn't put it past any of the gop presidential candidates. it has historically been one of the things that -- a tactic that's used. you know, lgbt americans and their lives u and kind of how we should be treated or how we should be accepted or -- >> and having a gay sister doesn't affect a politician's willingness to do that? >> you know, i -- i don't know the answer to that. like i think that if he is a politician and saying these things because's politician but he doesn't believe them or if he does believe them, i don't know if i like either of those answers very much, you know? i know at the end of the day he is wrong. he is on definitely the wrong side of history when it comes to those issues and it is those positions that you know, the human rights campaign and myself are going to work really, really hard to make sure that president